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Re: Here is what happened

Post by RMG1976 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:30 pm

Carrol wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:57 am
Thanks Ryan,
It's kind of what happened to my dad....Try to do things the right way (lawfully) & it gets shoved right up your Arse!!!
Ive heard bits and pieces of that story. Your dad sure did a lot of great work!

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by RMG1976 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:32 pm

R.C. wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:20 pm
New show idea.
Guy looking over his shoulder on the run after undermining a treasure hunt gets cornered eventually and not returning the treasure ,gets his his butt whupped before he is returned to the desert.
End scene is partially exposed bones bleaching in the desert.

Or ,he gets whacked after confirming a target existed on 47 site following the original script's following Travis's trail.. Same end scene.
Ehh, I don't that any of us are interested in something that dramatic. Like I said when I very first started these installments, we knew going into this that anything found wouldn't belong to us anyway.

The journey was worth it - and we still have so much more to investigate.

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by RMG1976 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:38 pm

nobody wrote:
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I always say TRUST NO ONE.
There are many people to trust - but I have found its the one's that are not financially motivated - or those that seek vapid reassurances.

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by 393stroker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:08 am

That's an incredible story Ryan, thanks for sharing it with us. When I first started trying to figure the stones out I was hoping that some day I would know. One thing I learned is how many people in the treasure hunting community are, well you know.

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by RMG1976 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:04 am

393stroker wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:08 am
That's an incredible story Ryan, thanks for sharing it with us. When I first started trying to figure the stones out I was hoping that some day I would know. One thing I learned is how many people in the treasure hunting community are, well you know.
You're very welcome.

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by RMG1976 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:28 am

The family and I would like to extend an offer to Dr. Glover to review my research as well as all other facts contained in my "installments". We believe Dr. Glover to be an honorable and trustworthy man that has an interest in telling an accurate history of The Superstition Mountains. His books have always been written with passion and transparency. Dr. Glover has also done a tremendous amount of research on his own when it comes to "The Rocks".

Dr. Glover - If you'd like to meet for lunch again - let me know. I will bring all the items I have posted about in this thread for your review - as well as the associated videos that were shot - in an effort to clear up the baseless and fear stricken drama amongst the treasure hunting community.

-RG

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by R.C. » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:46 am

RMG1976 wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:32 pm
R.C. wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:20 pm
New show idea.
Guy looking over his shoulder on the run after undermining a treasure hunt gets cornered eventually and not returning the treasure ,gets his his butt whupped before he is returned to the desert.
End scene is partially exposed bones bleaching in the desert.

Or ,he gets whacked after confirming a target existed on 47 site following the original script's following Travis's trail.. Same end scene.
Ehh, I don't that any of us are interested in something that dramatic. Like I said when I very first started these installments, we knew going into this that anything found wouldn't belong to us anyway.

The journey was worth it - and we still have so much more to investigate.

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But,but,but, (motor boat sound) , Except for public television ,drama sells...

Ya, that was/is some journey! If the oriental statement of travel being a way to turn money into mind is accurate , there will be notable expansions.

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by Joe Ribaudo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:25 am

RMG1976 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 6:28 am
The family and I would like to extend an offer to Dr. Glover to review my research as well as all other facts contained in my "installments". We believe Dr. Glover to be an honorable and trustworthy man that has an interest in telling an accurate history of The Superstition Mountains. His books have always been written with passion and transparency. Dr. Glover has also done a tremendous amount of research on his own when it comes to "The Rocks".

Dr. Glover - If you'd like to meet for lunch again - let me know. I will bring all the items I have posted about in this thread for your review - as well as the associated videos that were shot - in an effort to clear up the baseless and fear stricken drama amongst the treasure hunting community.

-RG
Thomas,

Thank you for your call. I am working on putting together the B.B. information.

Prior to accepting RG's kind offer, you might want to read some of the posts on Tnet.

Take care,

Joe

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by cubfan64 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:59 pm

Ryan, at one point when talking about figuring out the longitude and latitude markings for your "1847" site you mentioned... "this pattern of numbers and symbols is identical to the artistic expression Travis carved on the chimney of Pegleg's cabin. It's unmistakable."

Are you saying the numbers and symbols themselves are identical to those on the chimney or just that Travis carved numbers and symbols on the chimney in patterns which reminded you of the stone map? Also, I know years ago Garry Cundiff posted a number of photos of that Chimney and I recall a bicycle, old car, head and turtle, but I don't remember seeing any symbols or numbers. Can you post photos of the chimney with markings that are similar to those you believe Travis carved on the maps?

I've been extremely busy at work these days and have only had a few minutes now and then to pop on and read any updates, but one thing really struck me!! I can't be the only one who noticed the comment you say the Forest Service made after looking at your site.

In essence the Forest Service just told people that unless you get caught in the act (which of course is a huge risk), unless you're digging in an archaeological site, or leave behind anything of value or antiquity, there's nothing they can do to pursue charges. I swear I heard a story once about someone who thought they knew where something was buried so they just went out to the site, put up a big tent and "camped there" for a few days. I remember the story saying something about sounds of digging coming from inside, but after a time the tent came down and they went back to town - the ground looked the same and nobody was the wiser.

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Re: Here is what happened

Post by RMG1976 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:08 am

cubfan64 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:59 pm
Ryan, at one point when talking about figuring out the longitude and latitude markings for your "1847" site you mentioned... "this pattern of numbers and symbols is identical to the artistic expression Travis carved on the chimney of Pegleg's cabin. It's unmistakable."

Are you saying the numbers and symbols themselves are identical to those on the chimney or just that Travis carved numbers and symbols on the chimney in patterns which reminded you of the stone map? Also, I know years ago Garry Cundiff posted a number of photos of that Chimney and I recall a bicycle, old car, head and turtle, but I don't remember seeing any symbols or numbers. Can you post photos of the chimney with markings that are similar to those you believe Travis carved on the maps?

I've been extremely busy at work these days and have only had a few minutes now and then to pop on and read any updates, but one thing really struck me!! I can't be the only one who noticed the comment you say the Forest Service made after looking at your site.

In essence the Forest Service just told people that unless you get caught in the act (which of course is a huge risk), unless you're digging in an archaeological site, or leave behind anything of value or antiquity, there's nothing they can do to pursue charges. I swear I heard a story once about someone who thought they knew where something was buried so they just went out to the site, put up a big tent and "camped there" for a few days. I remember the story saying something about sounds of digging coming from inside, but after a time the tent came down and they went back to town - the ground looked the same and nobody was the wiser.

Good Morning Paul,

What I mean by "Artistic Expression" is the thought process behind creating art and how the author of that information chooses to express it. You are correct in your remembrance of what Garry had posted many years ago. Travis carved a self portrait then used a series of lines to connect the carvings together as one collective set.

I found this artistic expression to be the same in regard to the Priest side of the rock. A set of lines connecting a series of numbers to make one collective set.

In regard to the story you are recalling about illegal digging - thats very interesting and certainly makes the answer given to me by the officials at Tonto National Forest a bit easier to understand. Ultimately, of course, choosing to do things that are illegal (caught or not) - does not jive well with me or anyone else in the family. Those acts were a huge blow to the morale of everyone involved - that one of our sites had been compromised. We've still got so much more to follow up on - and work with members of the SoJ on. As mentioned, we had two different stories going on at once. 1) Travis and his movie set. 2) The Ground Map & The Barn Map. Now that we have completed and have a full understanding of the rocks Travis carved, we are focusing our undivided attention on Part 2 of our quest - but this time we will be doing it alone.

Thanks for your question!

-RG

ImageJJT CABIN CARVINGS by RYAN GORDON, on Flickr

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