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 Post subject: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:52 am 
One of the most famous maps believed to apply to the Superstition Mountains of Arizona, is the Peralta/Fish Map. The map is named after Treasure Hunter/Explorer Frank Fish, who claimed he obtained it in Sonora, Mexico from descendants of the Peraltas, who were wiped out in a battle with the Apaches in 1848.

Shortly before Frank's death he gave the map to Erie Schaefer (Author of the book Dead men Do Tell Tales) in which she tells the whole story about how Fish acquired the map. Erie was a long time friend of his. After Erie's death, the map was sold to Al Reser by Bill Schaefer (her surviving husband). Shortly before his death, Al Reser donated the map to the Superstition Historical Society.

There are many hand drawn copies and variations of this map in circulation. Some are quite accurate, although I have not seen any that depict everything correctly, as compared to the original map.

My copy of the map (shown below), is a scan of an 8X10 photo of the map that Al took when it was still owned by Erie Schaefer, and he gave to me just before he donated the original map to the SMHS.

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After Al took this photo Erie allowed someone to treat the map with chemicals, to try to bring out more of the fine details in it. The result was that the entire map was discolored, and rendered less readable than it had been before it was treated.

Anyone familiar with the Superstitions, can quickly recognize the familiar landmarks "4 peaks", "The Salt River", "Weaver's Needle" and the "Main Superstition Mountain" on it. Be that as it may... Opinions still vary about where the exact locations, marked by X's (assumed to be mines) actually exist out in the mountains.

Loosely interpreted, there are striking similarities between this map and the Peralta Stone Maps. I made several trips into the mountains with Al, listening to him tell me how he interpreted the map, and how it fit the same terrain the Stone Maps apply to. I believe he had the map figured out as close as anyone ever could, but it comes right down to the same problem we all have with all the other maps and set of clues, pertaining to lost mines or buried treasures in the Superstitions. The map is not detailed enough to tell you where to put the pick. Most likely because the mines/treasures it applies to, have been intentionally concealed.

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Jim


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:50 am 

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I say "W O W" :mrgreen:
Thanks for the info and the map


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:48 am 
Welcome to the forums Froggy!

If you are interested in lost mines and buried treasure in the Superstitions. That should at least put you in a good neighborhood for searching. ;)

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Jim


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:27 am 
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Is this map of paper parchment or hide?


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:12 am 
Morning Thom,

I can't really answer that. Here is what Erie Schaefer wrote in her book about it:

"The map was unrolled and Frank saw that it was on very old skin or parchment, brown with age. The inspector told him that the Spaniard told him he was a member of the original Peralta family, well known in Spain. He also told him of the Peralta Land Grant given his family by King Phillip of Spain. He told him of the family mining activities in Chichuahua before moving to Sonora and their mining activities in the Superstition Mountains of Arizona, which they held under Land grant."


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:26 am 
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I asked about which material because I thought it may give a better indicator as to rather the hole were made by accident or on purpose. If you enlarge the map to 400% you can see hill details exiting from at least 3 of the 5 missing pieces. My thought was maybe there are more mines than are visible. The large chunk was torn out, but the 3 directly below it have what appears to be very clean lines. Possibly cut out. 2 of the 5 have deep shadowing and its hard to tell if there are any mnt or hill details beside them. Since there are not trails this was only a map to give credence to the number of mines and not how to get to them.

Thom


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:02 am 
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Hey rede2rock If you look at my maps on the Zuni trip in this forum. You will see that same map!! Lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:06 am 
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Look on page five. If I showed the whole map it would look almost the same. But my map has no tricks in it.


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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:10 am 
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The pits you see close to the salt river are still there. They are under water. I found them two weeks ago. They had been there all these years,but the river changed course and now the pits hold water most of the year.

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 Post subject: Re: Peralta/Fish Map
PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:23 am 
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rede2rock In my opinion I found the old placer pits.

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