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 Post subject: INTRODUCTION-Talk Rocks w/ Ed Arno <roc2rol>
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:53 pm 
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Hi Everyone

My name is Ed I’m native of Phoenix and I just started a lapidary hobby and have made a considerable investment in a cabbing machine, diamond wheels and such. Presently, I have no place to set up & operate this machinery. I was thinking this board may have local person who would be interested in starting this hobby & had the space at their property where I could set-up the machinery. I’m a novice - but have the basic of the lapidary arts down, and would be willing to teach another person what I know.

Ed <roc2rol>


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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:08 pm 
Hello Ed and welcome to the Forums!

I always appreciate it when new members make an introductory post like this, or send me an introductory e-mail.

Thank You for choosing DUSA as a medium to discuss your hobby with others sharing the same interest in Lapidary activities.

I look forward to seeing lots of photos, of polished rocks and mineral specimens, from you and others in the not too distant future.

Jim Hatt


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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:28 am 
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Wow ! Thanks Jim!

I have lots of rocks and pictures! But I’m no rock hound
My motto is: you find'um- I’ll grind'um

I started this hobby last winter and worked outside. Every weekend I was out grinding rocks. Then the summer put me out of business! Too hot!! Then we got in trouble with the city for a cluttered yard and had to do a major clean-up! Everything got moved and I haven’t been able to get set back up. In my avatar is my machine and space. Kind of hard to distinguish.

My specialty is making roc’n hearts! Well how appropriate is that to the Lost Dutchman treasure?
Somewhere its is written:

find the heart- find the treasure.

So anyone who’s interested in this hobby, perhaps starting up or wanting to discuss rocks or lapidary ect… I’m always interested. I’m new to it though and certainly there are many who know much more than I. Looking forward!

Heres' one of my roc'n hearts. Crafted from labradorite & onyx

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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:15 am 
You're welcome Ed,

I think your topic is a nice addition to the forums. Even though you may not be a Rockhound yourself. I think your topic is bound to draw a lot of them here, once the word gets around, and we will start seeing a lot of photos of nice Mineral Specimens. That is something all treasure Hunters are interested in!

One of these days, when we can get together... I will take you to place where you can pick up some nice blue & white Fire Opal, laying right on top of the ground, in the Superstitions. I shipped some of it to my Uncle in Michigan, and he made some nice Jewelry from it. (Earrings and Necklace)

I'm not the greatest photographer, and I just use a cheap camera, but you can see all the different colors of fire in the photos.

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The photos were taken under a desk lamp. There is even more fire visible out in the direct sunlight.

Jim


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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:51 am 
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roc2rol - that's a fabulous looking heart you made! It reminds me of some arrow points I've seen people hold up to the sky so you could see how translucent they are! Great job.


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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:30 pm 
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Whoa Jim! That is some fabulous material! I’ve never seen the blue & white with that opal sheen. Not quite like that! I’ve never worked any opal but those specimens are a marvel. Just picked up off the ground? What a wonder & a feast!

O! Your uncle is a master! What a fine job! I’ve never tried to shape a stone into a round circle. He did a fabulous job. Does he post on the board? I could learn much from him!

The photography is tricky! I take lots of pics of one stone just to get a couple good ones. The way many people do it is they make a shadow box. Even then it can still be a trick. But your photos show off well -- the sheen of the opal/ I can imagine in the sunlight.

This blue & white stone ( that resembles your opal) that I worked came from Brazil. I believe it to be sodalite. It doesn’t have that opalize sheen but I’m real proud of this heart. I’m not sure what the greenish white other ½ is. But the 2 stones had the same sort of structure and complimented each other well.
Some sort of feldspar I believe.

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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:37 pm 
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roc2rol - that's a fabulous looking heart you made!


Thanks so much, cubsfan64! 8-) I’ve never made an arrowhead. I’ve seen video’s of knappers who basically use a antler horn and chip away at a piece of obsidian to make arrowheads. Marvelous art what they produce with deadly effect.

Here’s that heart against a solid object. It’s amazing what the play of light can create on a polish surface.

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Just as a side note: I’d like to tumble some obsidian and create apache tears.


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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:19 pm 
roc2rol wrote:
Whoa Jim!

O! Your uncle is a master! What a fine job! I’ve never tried to shape a stone into a round circle. He did a fabulous job. Does he post on the board? I could learn much from him!



No Ed, That jewelry is about 10 years old and my Uncle that made it passed away about 2 years ago.

He built his own device for making circles. He used part of an old lathe to make it. First he would cut the rock into a flat thin slab. Then he would glue it to the head of a stick that looked like a big Golf Tee. Then he clamped the sharp end of the Tee into the lathe chuck so he could rotate it, and just moved it up to the grinding wheel. First he would grind off any corners, and then just keep rotating it and grinding until it was perfectly round.

No skill required! Perfect circle every time!

Jim


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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:22 pm 
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Sorry to hear of the loss, Jim. Your uncle had great skills to set-up the lathe and perform the circular feat. I can see it in my mind’s eye. I’ve talked with lots of fellow rock grinders and haven’t heard of anyone mentioning using a lathe. Although, I’m sure it is of some common practice.

This is a specimen of what I believe to be a thunder egg agate. I can’t verify where it was found. A person left it on my doorstep, with many other specimen, and only knew they were hounded somewhere in Arizona. I cut this particular one in half and it was a marvel. Image

Unfortunately my tile saw blew the circuit breaker in the middle of the cut. When I re-started the cut I didn’t align the blade very well resulting in less than a smooth cut surface.



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My idea is to chuck the rock into a vice on surface grinder
& swipe the table back & forth across the wheel smoothing
& polishing the flat surface.

So perhaps someone out there as a machine shop & would be interested in trying this?

But the necklace is really wonderful piece of art. Those rocks are really pretty and certainly gems! Amazing what nature produces!

Ed


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 Post subject: Re: LAPIDARY Talk with Ed
PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:24 am 
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Jim Hatt wrote:
You're welcome Ed,

I think your topic is a nice addition to the forums. Even though you may not be a Rockhound yourself. I think your topic is bound to draw a lot of them here, once the word gets around, and we will start seeing a lot of photos of nice Mineral Specimens. That is something all treasure Hunters are interested in!

One of these days, when we can get together... I will take you to place where you can pick up some nice blue & white Fire Opal, laying right on top of the ground, in the Superstitions. I shipped some of it to my Uncle in Michigan, and he made some nice Jewelry from it. (Earrings and Necklace)

I'm not the greatest photographer, and I just use a cheap camera, but you can see all the different colors of fire in the photos.

Image

Image

Image

The photos were taken under a desk lamp. There is even more fire visible out in the direct sunlight.

Jim


Jim - those are PHENOMENAL!!! I absolutely love the pink, orange and green "fire" in them! Truly a natural wonder enhanced by man!!


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