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 Post subject: Re: Superstition Mountain History Discussion - OLD B/W PHOTO
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:03 am 

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I wonder if his lawyer used "Unsafe at Any Speed" ,the book that made Ralph Nader a celebrity,for his defence?
That stretch of road is all gravel,twisty and narrow with few guardrails.
Wonder how the trial turned out ?

On the Corvair:
Used to be a lot of them on the racetrack.The first models had a swing-type axle,same as the older VW beetles,which had a tendency to "jack" the back end of the car when it was abruptly turned.This could cause a spin or even a rollover.Later models had double jointed independent suspension,similar to all modern types such as Porche 911's,and made excellent racecars.Loss of control of any vehicle can occur if limits are exceeded.Usually it's the fault of the driver for not knowing or not observing those limits.All rear-engined cars,including the many of most successful Porche road and race cars,have a natural tendency to swap ends instantly unless driven properly and above all,very smoothly.
IMO,the car got a bad rap,and like the many similar "exposes" since Nader's,it was based on manipulation of the reality.

The white and blue car ahead of the white porche in this video is a corvair.
Nether the Corvair or the old Jag XJ seem to be having much trouble leading the newer BMW 325 camera car.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuxLbG71 ... re=channel

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 Post subject: Re: Superstition Mountain History Discussion - OLD B/W PHOTO
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:25 am 
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You make a good defense for mechanical failure SH

Az Hiway Patrolman Ron Griffith ‘discounted
anyone being in the driver’s seat of 62 Corvair
when he said the imprint of the steering wheel
was found in the back of the front seat”.

I can only assume that I know what that quote means
The trial was to resume Dec 3rd 1968
If I get a chance I'll follow up.

Ya never know what tidbits might get mentioned
Regarding the legend of the Supers.

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 Post subject: Re: Superstition Mountain History Discussion - OLD B/W PHOTO
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:31 am 
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Which also bring up the recent story
of an unfortunate lady who fell to her death in the Supers.
Was there some suspicion about that ?
any follow up?
roc


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 Post subject: Re: Superstition Mountain History Discussion - OLD B/W PHOTO
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:02 pm 

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Hi Wayne: An update on the Whitneyville-Walker Colts. There are many stories circulating about these firearms hidden somewhere in the Superstition Mountains. I am not sure there is any truth to the story because most of the information I have is just oral history. There is documents or records to indicate any shipment of Colts were ever made to Fort McDowell from Fort Lowell during this times period. However, I still don't rule out the story because of the different credible sources who make reference to it. There is a possibility the documents or records will be located one day. Several years ago I was told by a University of Arizona researcher of military records and documents that nothing exist about any Colt revolvers being lost between Fort McDowell and Fort Lowell. Who knows what the truth really is? However, it is an interesting story to think about and look into.

Tom K.


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 Post subject: Re: Superstition Mountain History Discussion - OLD B/W PHOTO
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:30 am 

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Tom:

There's always some stories which are,or sound like tall tales.
It's a bonus though,to find some kind of irrefutable proof that these incidents really did occur.
But at least the Walker Colt story doesn't have them hidden inside the LDM,or buried with a saddlebag of gold ore. :lol: In other words, if the story has been around since a time when old revolvers had little or no value, it's more likely to have some truth to it.
It's not like the Army and other Gov't agencies always keep track of everything that we taxpayers have purchased for them.
Especially it seems,when it comes to arms and ammo.
"Fast & Furious" is just the latest example. :oops:

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