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RMG1976 wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:18 pm
somehiker wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:13 pm
393stroker wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:59 pm1/4 circle
Even less.....about 60 degrees, or 3X20 deg.
And barely 100 years old IMO. The great Jesuit roundup in the southwest was 250 years ago.
A transplanted Saguaro would have to be even older than that, and look something like this....
http://avax.news/fact/Worlds_Biggest_Sa ... actus.html

There's plenty like that out there in the mountains.
Also...keep in mind the fact that those markings would have had to have been made when the ones in question were already 50 plus years old.
I don't believe I have given a date in which this took place yet - try not to get your panties in a bunch Wayne!

As for the nick names I call things, well - they are nick names.
When you figure it out, let us know.....ok
And I ain't the one wearing the panties around here......just sayin
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Thanks for the additional photos Ryan. I know you believe it is man made and it could very well be, but the skeptic in me has to use the K.I.S.S. principle and start by ruling out natural causes. I don't have the slightest idea what in nature could cause such uniform markings, but if anyone has seen anything like those V's on other cacti out there - especially if you can post photos of similar things it would be interesting.
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Revised my previous post, to further clarify my opinion.
somehiker wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 4:13 pm
393stroker wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:59 pm1/4 circle
Even less.....about 60 degrees, or 3X20 deg.
And barely 100 years old IMO. The great Jesuit roundup in the southwest was 250 years ago.
Any Saguaro transplanted by pre-expulsion Jesuits would have to have been ready to put markings on by then.
And if all four shown in the photo survived , would now look like this.....
http://avax.news/fact/Worlds_Biggest_Sa ... actus.html

There's plenty like that one out there in the mountains.
With various natural wounds, wren holes and now and then, man made markings as well.....including bullet holes.
Also...keep in mind the fact that those markings would have had to have been made when the ones in question were already 50 plus years old.
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Thanks again Ryan! It's hard for me to remember the stories my dad told me (over 45 yrs ago) & I never really knew how it all happened, Nowadays I would get Jesuits, Peraltas, Conquistadors & everyone in between mixed up!!! Mostly I remember my experiences there with my dad. But as far as how it all came to be, I was too young to learn or care. Your postings here are helping me to learn much more of how it happened, not necessarily pertaining to the rocks but the history.
Thank you, Carrol
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Maybe if I make it to Dave's place during the next Get together?
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Somehiker wrote: >>And I ain't the one wearing the panties around here......just sayin<<

Did Wayne just mention he was going commando??? Who'da Tunk it?
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Old wrote: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:22 pm Somehiker wrote: >>And I ain't the one wearing the panties around here......just sayin<<

Did Wayne just mention he was going commando??? Who'da Tunk it?
Lol lol
:D

Okay. Back to business!
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It is possible Travis and friends created the 1847 site
He was being hounded by other treasure hunters and
He was hunting in a different area. Why not create
A diversion, mark some cactus, bury a box, plant some clues for others to follow. All the while search unbothered
In your area of interest. The aging on the cactus marks
Seems to fit that time line. He created the “rocks”
After all which folks have been chasing for years. Ryan you are doing justice to history. The story needs to be told
Tell it true.

KH
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