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Fascinating story, Ryan! Looking forward to the next installment.

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Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:50 am
Fascinating story, Ryan! Looking forward to the next installment.
It's my pleasure to share, sir. In the next few days I've got a few big things on my plate - but I will make an earnest effort to get more information out ASAP.

I wholeheartedly agree that the story of the rocks, Tumlinson and Leasman families, the SoJ and all the history is fascinating!

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On the phone with Lynda right now, and she pointed out that I left a picture out of my post, on accident.

The photo that I want to share is an aerial shot of the treasure location, that we had always nicknamed "The Half Circle"

Here you go!

ImageHalf Circle by RYAN GORDON, on Flickr

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1/4 circle

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Ryan - in the photo of the cactus described as the box cut into it with V's surrounding the cactus, the V's don't look like they were deeply cut/carved into the cactus like most people assume "signs" to be. For lack of a better description does it look like those are all scar marks from very light cuts into the cactus that just healed quickly and left a light discoloration?

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Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:31 pm
Ryan - in the photo of the cactus described as the box cut into it with V's surrounding the cactus, the V's don't look like they were deeply cut/carved into the cactus like most people assume "signs" to be. For lack of a better description does it look like those are all scar marks from very light cuts into the cactus that just healed quickly and left a light discoloration?
You know thats something that I have wondered about myself, have also asked members of the SoJ. If you notice in the aerial shot, you will see there is a lack of foliage, especially compared to the picture of the "crown", which isnt too far away. I was told the Jesuits used salt as a way to make plants not grow. News to me!

When it comes to the V's - the best way I could describe them is they appeared to be tattooed. The skin of the cactus is never broken anywhere. Perhaps heat of some sort. I do not have an exacting answer for you on how the Grijalva family would have made those markings. It seems no body can figure it out, but they are there....clear as day...

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Thanks for the response - the description "tatoo" is a good one since the skin doesn't seem to be broken anywhere.

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Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:46 pm
Thanks for the response - the description "tatoo" is a good one since the skin doesn't seem to be broken anywhere.

Odd
Im sure I have more photos, standby

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ImageV3 by RYAN GORDON, on Flickr

ImageV2 by RYAN GORDON, on Flickr

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393stroker wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:59 pm
1/4 circle
Even less.....about 60 degrees, or 3X20 deg.
And barely 100 years old IMO. The great Jesuit roundup in the southwest was 250 years ago.
Any Saguaro transplanted by pre-expulsion Jesuits would have to have been ready to put markings on by then.
And if all four shown in the photo survived , would now look like this.....
http://avax.news/fact/Worlds_Biggest_Sa ... actus.html

There's plenty like that one out there in the mountains.
With various natural wounds, wren holes and now and then, man made markings as well.....including bullet holes.
Also...keep in mind the fact that those markings would have had to have been made when the ones in question were already 50 plus years old.
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