Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

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Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

Post by GolfGURL » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:02 pm

Hi,

Can anyone help me identify what type of Toad this is? Someone thought it might be a Sonoran Desert Toad, but I wasn't sure.
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Re: Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

Post by Iggy1 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:46 pm

Welcome to the site GolfGurl: That's what it looks like to me. You may want to check out this link.

http://www.californiaherps.com/frogs/pa ... arius.html

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Re: Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

Post by reptilist » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:25 am

I don't see any paratoid glands. Where was it found?

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Post by Jim Hatt » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:44 am

Hey Reptilist,

In Golfgurl's first post where the photo should be, I get the following message....

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Have you ever seen that before?

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Re: Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

Post by GolfGURL » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:10 am

I found the Toad in Indio, CA at a house on the golf course. There are some ponds on the course and in the summer these toads and little frogs come out and are found all around the house and on the grass in the back.

As for the permissions error, DUSA is working on it. I had that problem too after I posted the photo. You can see it when you are logged out, but not when you are logged in. Something to do with the permissions.

Thanks for the help with the ID!

GG

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Post by reptilist » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:54 am

OK. Looking through some toad books....Your toad lacks the identifiers for the Sonoran Desert Toad. The paratoid glands are not obvious, large, and sausage shaped, there are no large glands on it's thighs and no white tubercles under the rear lower jaw.

It appears to have a white line running down the center of it's back, which would identify it as a Woodhouse toad...The Woodhouse sometimes crossbreeds with the Red Spotted Toad, and just maybe that's a possibility too...

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Re: Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

Post by GolfGURL » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:52 pm

Does this toad have the characteristics of a California or Western Toad? After reading this and looking at the photos this toad seems closer to the Calif. Toad than the others noted above. I've attached two more photos for reference. Thanks for all the feedback! GG

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Post by reptilist » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:30 pm

The the Western Toad is divided into two subspecies: The California Toad (Bufo boreas halophilus), which lives in your area, and the Boreal Toad (Bufo boreas boreas) which lives in Norcal.
I think you are right in calling it the California toad.
(For some reason I was thinking you were in Needles....My mistake....which is out of range for the Western Toad.)

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Re: Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

Post by Jerry Feldner » Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:18 am

I think it may be Bufo woodhousii, the Rocky Mountain Toad. In the pics you showed, the belly appears to be pretty immaculate. That is a characteristic of B. woodhousii (See>>> http://www.reptilesofaz.org/Turtle-Amph ... ousii.html and


http://www.reptilesofaz.org/Turtle-Amph ... ousii.html


Pics of B. boreas usually show quite a bit of speckling on the belly. See >>> http://www.californiaherps.com/frogs/pa ... oreas.html

Even though the pics were taken in Indio, outside the accepted range of B. woodhousii, one never knows when it comes to golf course fauna. Definitely NOT the Sonoran Desert Toad.
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Re: Need ID on Toad . . . Sonoran Desert Toad?

Post by GolfGURL » Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:46 pm

Thanks for all of the feedback and links. I appreciate the help!

GG

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