DID WALTZ LIE TO JULIA AND RHINEY???

[silent hunter]

The last few hours all one does is say help me???...HAHAHAHA Wow the fear of death is reserved for the Wicked.....And wicked ends as wicked does!!! When you live in a world of shit you die in a world of shit....From holding the hands of loved one in there last hours of death I have been privalaged to see the love and care just before death....Tears.....................My best friend Jim Hatt did not cower or even shed one tear seconds before his death.....He just told me he was getting ready for the big sleep....Real people dont cry for help when they die, they go in peace.....The same way they Lived.......So Joe, which type of Man are you?


Double-Jack

[i-tsari-tsu-i]

The last few hours all one does is say help me???...HAHAHAHA Wow the fear of death is reserved for the Wicked.....And wicked ends as wicked does!!! When you live in a world of shit you die in a world of shit....From holding the hands of loved one in there last hours of death I have been privalaged to see the love and care just before death....Tears.....................My best friend Jim Hatt did not cower or even shed one tear seconds before his death.....He just told me he was getting ready for the big sleep....Real people dont cry for help when they die, they go in peace.....The same way they Lived.......So Joe, which type of Man are you?


Double-Jack

Kurt,

If you are going to quote someone, at least try to be accurate. This is what I wrote:

[From what I know of what took Waltz's life, I doubt he said anything at the moment of death. In fact, I doubt he said much that was coherent that night....at all. The thing you hear the most in the last hours is......"help me"]

From that you get this:

"The last few hours all one does is say help me???..."

I have been in the healthcare business for over 20-years now. In that time, I have been with dozens of people in their last hours. Some say nothing. Most have simply said, over and over again, "HELP ME".

Unlike you, I did not take that to mean the person was afraid of death. They probably have no idea what is going on, other than that they are in extreme pain.

No one can say what a man, or woman, will say in those hours and after days of torment. I doubt they even know.

What kind of man I am, or you think you are, makes absolutely no difference. In those final hours, many become someone different than what they were.

I appreciate your comments, but your experience with Jim, I would say, does not make you an authority on the subject.

Joe Ribaudo

[babymick1]

Thanks Joe!

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Yet there is a slight problem. The last line of the obituary is barely legible.
I believe it says something to the affect that when Waltz died he had a
‘a blessing on his lips’.





roc

Roc:
Its A right of passage, performed by a priest of the catholic faith,
holy water and the rosareary and kiss the cross, acceptance into Christs kindom
a blessing on the lips

So now you know what Waltz's faith was. He was Catholic!

Take care and cut that snowflake

Babymick1

[babymick1]

Well, let me rearrange my last post.

They say one'e last breath is the exact time one's soul leaves your body. To recieve a blessing on the lips at that time in death, Tells me there was alittle more to Waltz's then then just a unbeloved old dude. He must of been a well liked and cherished person, perhape's he helped alot more then one reads about and never bosted about it. To recieve a blessing on the lips, witch was reserved for bishops,cardinals and the pope, even Kings. I'd say Waltz had some kind of karisma.

So thanks Roc, it gives us all an insight into the man we've all been tracking.

Thanks Again

Babymick1

[alan m]

Waltz was a Mason, so I doubt that he was Catholic
Alan

[babymick1]

Alan

I really think Waltz never lied to Julia and Rhiney, they just did'nt get it right!

By the way what makes you think he was a mason.

Babymick1

[alan m]

It is a matter of Masonic record that waltz was a Mason
Alan

[babymick1]

Alan

Where could I find this record.


Babymick1

[alan m]

Contact the grand lodge of Arizona
Alan

[roc2rol]

Interesting.
But I don’t think the Mason organization
would be very forthcoming in their member registrar.
I have tried. I hope someone as more success.
It could clear up the Weiser problem also.

Nonetheless Waltz isn’t buried in the Masonic section of the Pioneer Cemetery.
Not sure what that means…

roc