Re: Finding the Peralta Treasures
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:31 am
Robert again
Boy you got to love those cell phone spell checkers.
I must add an additional point not asked for to see if you all agree.
In my experience we as people have our own 'applications' like a cell phone. We as operators are the conscious people making choices and relying on apps to get our attention. A ding can tell you a message has arrived, and the message app is running in the background waiting to detect something.
I personally find I am the same; that phones are in fact designed similar to peoples minds. As a result the same app that lets me discover a coin on the ground is also detecting those impacts people make in wilderness. I've learned from searching for things over a lifetime how my mind gets my attention; a long gaze for nor apparent reason for example. If I cannot detect what is ringing my alarms I take a hi-def photo. I carry a Nikon D7000 and shoot a whole lot of frames. Later when rested I go through them very slowly. The things I can detect with my 'app' are called 'sticky notes' by me.
I've learned to tell game trails from foot trails and faults. I've been able to find those trails even when very old. I also see images such as geometric shapes stenciled, carved, placed or natural. There is a measurable energy that is created when objects are moved ( physicists call it potential energy ). Unusable energy is called entropy. Entropy and energy of similar levels concentrated in one spot indicate human activity. Reading the signs of it are another skill. A simple example is a scattering of rock. Could be chips from making arrowheads, could be mine tailings or a dump from a gold pan. The same is true of the modification of limbs on plants. Turned stones; all those things the Apaches learned to observe can still be learned today.
I have observed that the Peraltas were as equally sensitive to these as the Apaches. Because of this they would stack stones with brush near entrances of tunnels to obscure their presence. In some cases the only way to observe a shaft entrance is from above. Stones of an off color are placed at a cliffs edge, to indicate you should go look down.
My point being when I say ' a maze of dungeons and dragons clues' realize why. They had to remain as obscure to the Apaches as possible yet they knew they were observed. Similarly I suspect each post on the Post Road had a boss that was in charge of managing the obscurity of the mines; minimizing how many people knew exactly where to go.
Spanish law before the Mexican Independence dictated how many miners per mine there were. More miners would have to be accepted by the miners because each miner got a wage and a cut of the proceeds. I suspect these laws were in effect in the Superstition Mountains by the Peraltas in order to establish mine security. Give the miner a cut and he likely would insure the entrances were obscure and kept private. Friends likely worked one mine together.
While much of this is an opinion its based on readings of other sources of operations discovered in New Mexico that read like a Peralta legend and operation. These operations, for example, would put forges and smelting facilities inside the underground chambers to operate 24 hours a day. They were well ventilated. Niches in tunnels provided beds for miners. The need to go outside was minimized.
Based on my crude estimates of ore quality from samples I suspect that to get an ingot of gold from a good mine a string of 10 mules carried 9 loads of waste and one load of quality ore. Waste I've seen has been dumped in deep fractures between boulders or in crevasses. The mines have circles around them. Triangles with the base attached to the circle are the entrance and exit paths for a mule train to line up around the entrance. Miners loaded all mules in parallel. Trails over hills split into two paths so they could bypass without pulling over.
These are the sorts of things I meant by 'a maze of dungeons and dragon clues'.
Robert
Boy you got to love those cell phone spell checkers.
I must add an additional point not asked for to see if you all agree.
In my experience we as people have our own 'applications' like a cell phone. We as operators are the conscious people making choices and relying on apps to get our attention. A ding can tell you a message has arrived, and the message app is running in the background waiting to detect something.
I personally find I am the same; that phones are in fact designed similar to peoples minds. As a result the same app that lets me discover a coin on the ground is also detecting those impacts people make in wilderness. I've learned from searching for things over a lifetime how my mind gets my attention; a long gaze for nor apparent reason for example. If I cannot detect what is ringing my alarms I take a hi-def photo. I carry a Nikon D7000 and shoot a whole lot of frames. Later when rested I go through them very slowly. The things I can detect with my 'app' are called 'sticky notes' by me.
I've learned to tell game trails from foot trails and faults. I've been able to find those trails even when very old. I also see images such as geometric shapes stenciled, carved, placed or natural. There is a measurable energy that is created when objects are moved ( physicists call it potential energy ). Unusable energy is called entropy. Entropy and energy of similar levels concentrated in one spot indicate human activity. Reading the signs of it are another skill. A simple example is a scattering of rock. Could be chips from making arrowheads, could be mine tailings or a dump from a gold pan. The same is true of the modification of limbs on plants. Turned stones; all those things the Apaches learned to observe can still be learned today.
I have observed that the Peraltas were as equally sensitive to these as the Apaches. Because of this they would stack stones with brush near entrances of tunnels to obscure their presence. In some cases the only way to observe a shaft entrance is from above. Stones of an off color are placed at a cliffs edge, to indicate you should go look down.
My point being when I say ' a maze of dungeons and dragons clues' realize why. They had to remain as obscure to the Apaches as possible yet they knew they were observed. Similarly I suspect each post on the Post Road had a boss that was in charge of managing the obscurity of the mines; minimizing how many people knew exactly where to go.
Spanish law before the Mexican Independence dictated how many miners per mine there were. More miners would have to be accepted by the miners because each miner got a wage and a cut of the proceeds. I suspect these laws were in effect in the Superstition Mountains by the Peraltas in order to establish mine security. Give the miner a cut and he likely would insure the entrances were obscure and kept private. Friends likely worked one mine together.
While much of this is an opinion its based on readings of other sources of operations discovered in New Mexico that read like a Peralta legend and operation. These operations, for example, would put forges and smelting facilities inside the underground chambers to operate 24 hours a day. They were well ventilated. Niches in tunnels provided beds for miners. The need to go outside was minimized.
Based on my crude estimates of ore quality from samples I suspect that to get an ingot of gold from a good mine a string of 10 mules carried 9 loads of waste and one load of quality ore. Waste I've seen has been dumped in deep fractures between boulders or in crevasses. The mines have circles around them. Triangles with the base attached to the circle are the entrance and exit paths for a mule train to line up around the entrance. Miners loaded all mules in parallel. Trails over hills split into two paths so they could bypass without pulling over.
These are the sorts of things I meant by 'a maze of dungeons and dragon clues'.
Robert