GENERAL DISCUSSION - Anything related to the LDM

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Brad W. wrote:Ashton,
I think the higher the mercury vapor readings, the higher of content of precious metals. I can't think of any other reason why you would have high mercury vapor readings and no precious metals. A lot of correlation in the Superstition Mountains. Now I pray for gold prices to not go any higher than $1,500 per ounce. I'm worried if the price does raise above $1500 per ounce the wilderness area will be off limits to us forever. I notice that the U.S. Government never gives back anything they take.

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I'm not sure mercury evaporatres
with out reconstituting itself
I have some cinnabar in my rock collection
I made a poisoned heart Ha Ha
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Gentlemen,

Here’s the link if anybody wants to D/L the USGS publication:

http://pubs.usgs.gov/circ/1969/0609/report.pdf

A few years back I looked at mercury vapor samplers. You can pick used ones up on eBay for a few hundred bucks, but they are big (for a backpack) and battery operated – essentially all the things I don’t want to carry on my back to almost impassable locations in the Superstitions. However, on page 1 of the USGS circular is a method for gathering samples directly from the soil. They essentially set up 2 foot high plastic tents on the ground, placed some gold at the top and let the convection air current draw the air from the ground over the gold - which mercury will stick to. Here's the quote:

APPARATUS AND TECHNIQUE FOR MEASURING MERCURY IN SOIL GAS
Pyramidal tents of transparent plastic were used to funnel soil gas through gold or silver foil to trap mercury. The tents (fig. 1) were constructed of four pieces of 1/8-inch-thick Plexiglas, which were 2 feet wide at the base and tapered to 2 inches wide at the top; vertical height of the tent was 22 inches. The tent was formed by joining the Plexiglas panels with masking tape. A basket made of 80-mesh stainless-steel wire cloth was placed over the opening in the top and was secured with tape (fig. 2). The tent was then placed on the ground and soil was banked around its base to exclude free movement of air into it from the outside.

Gold or silver flakes (about 1 gram) were spread evenly in the wire basket, and a canvas sample sack was taped loosely over the top to prevent the flakes from blowing away (fig. I). The flakes were 0.007 inch thick and about 1/16 inch square. Under the influence of the sun's rays, the air temperature inside the tent immediately began to rise, setting up convection currents that carried the air in the tent upward through the trap. The tent was left in position for 2 hours, during which time 175 cubic feet of air passed through the trap. In practice, about 10 tents were placed along a traverse within a period of 2 hours and were then collected in order……..

Page 3 is interesting:

CONCLUSIONS
Mercury in soil gas collected at the surface has delineated part of the known gold deposits at Cortez, Nev., through as much as 100 feet of gravel. Mineralized veins and faults are readily detectable by measurement of mercury in soil gas…..

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Also in the pamphlet are charts of samples taken over known gold deposits, in most cases you would need to be almost directly over the gold vein – BUT the part about mercury vapors being detectable through 100 feet of overburden (gravels in this case) was highly intriguing.

This is a do-able method of mercury vapor sampling in the Superstitions. Given the terrain and accessibility of the Superstitions, I don’t think it’s practical for large areas -> but if you happen to be in a section of the hills where you believe the covered shaft is located then it’s something to think about, isn’t it?

Clay's prediction that some future technology would be used to discover the LDM may come true after all.....

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Thanks for posting that, Ashton
and I'm going to have to do some more research
but just by reading that demonstration
I don't see how the mecury vapor test indicates gold ?

it seems like the gold indicates that
mercury may be present in the soil

if only the process worked in reverse
hhhmmmm...
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Hi Roc,

It seems that mercury and arsenic occur naturally - wherever gold occurs.

The old timers knew this and since mercury vapor and arsenic in the soil will stunt pant growth, the old timers would look for stunted and sickly, discolored plants. Funny how we're essentially doing the same thing that they did hundreds of years ago (looking for mercury vapors) except we're now using electronics.

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Thanks again Ashton!!

I didn’t know about that link between mercury & gold deposit.
Now it makes lots of sense
Should have known that from my alchemical readings
Not that it necessarily means their gold there
But what the heck ! Dig anyway.
Mercury is a serious element.

Tent away & those electronic gizmo’s are pretty inexpensive.

And arsenic too? I have some agate that as arsenic on it
Its called Bumble Bee Agate from Indonesia, I think.
The arsenic is a bright orange
powdery substance adhered to the agate.
I plan on making another poison heart
and sending it to my ex. Ha Ha
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Hey roc
Uroborus
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ben to pan
one to all
:lol:


ouroboros image is proprietary
maybe I can get it to post
when I have more time
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Jacob Waltz was Republican
Had all the gold
& wouldn't share it w/anyone
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